Zeitgeist Moving Forward

A feature length documentary work which will present a case for a needed transition out of the current socioeconomic monetary paradigm which governs the entire world society.

This subject matter will transcend the issues of cultural relativism and traditional ideology and move to relate the core, empirical life groundattributes of human and social survival, extrapolating those immutable natural laws into a new sustainable social paradigm called a Resource-Based Economy.

Following on from Zeitgeist: The Movie, Zeitgeist: Addendum, Zeitgeist Movement Activist and Orientation Guide, Moving Forward reinforces and clarifies the information presented in those films.

It is done so in a crystal clear fashion beginning with an examination of the conditioning that shapes our behavior, moving on to the failures of the monetary/market system, it’s resultant socio-economic collapse and finally, the transition into a resource based economy for the betterment of humankind.

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  • Mike Post

    Watched the movie in the theater the other day. I was totally mind blown!

    I think everyone should watch it and finally open their eyes!

  • Jonny

    I went to see Zeitgeist 3 at the premiere, i thought part 1 was brilliant. The rest again Peter Joseph wrongly conflates the current system with free market capitalism. He ignores the role of state coercion. Didn’t mention it once. He described a coercive system and then attributed it to free market economists (who are essentially anarcho-capitalists). He blames the currency, not the coercion.

  • Nuckelhedd

    Fantastic job putting this together. 10 stars.

  • Michelle S

    What, says it was removed by the user?!!!! Is it coming back??

    Mich

    • Jonny

      fixed!

  • Devon

    Remove this from your site. Peter Joseph hasn’t released the true version yet, so whoever is posting this early is leaking the video. Remove it.

  • AJ Renner

    Via; http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

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  • Marco

    I think he’s talking about the USSR. That worked out well, no?

    • Steve

      Only 200+ million. Stop being such a party pooper (get it, party pooper? huh huh) I mean. . . what’s being dead and all, if you’re equally dead to everyone else? Technically it’s not lying. . . dead people not only don’t need to use money, but they’re all equal in every way.

      Just think of all of the evil bourgeois that could have oppressed those dead proletariat workers. . . subjecting them to such horrors as chaining them with spiked dog collars to their machines, tasering them, beating them senseless with red hot pokers, and laughing as they put out their evil capitalist cigars on their nether regions, while weaving their deviant plans of profit making. as is the practice in capitalist countries.

      Those 200 million were the ultimate end for the rising prolitarian class! They were liberated from their wage slavery and put into top quality people’s mass grave pits! No bourgeois allowed in the people’s liberation pits! Tis good, yes? We will have solidarity in our people’s liberation pits! We work as one, and we decompose as one! For the Motherland!

      Onward Commie soldiers! Let the revolution continue commrades! Let’s love the world to death! We know what’s best for everyone on earth! As for me, give everyone else equality under my authority or give them death! This is freedom! This is utopia! March! March! If the “workers of the world” don’t want us to “make them equal”, we’ll just murder them all! March! March!

      Oh crap. . . What was I thinking? I’ve got to stop watching this movie. I think it’s brainwashing me. I almost decended into some sort of commie madness or something. Phew.

      :D ;) :O

  • FK

    This is what happens when you don’t do things on time and repeating the same message all day long. OH well can’t say I did not say so.

  • redpill

    “I went to see Zeitgeist 3 at the premiere, i thought part 1 was brilliant. The rest again Peter Joseph wrongly conflates the current system with free market capitalism. He ignores the role of state coercion. Didn’t mention it once. He described a coercive system and then attributed it to free market economists (who are essentially anarcho-capitalists). He blames the currency, not the coercion.”

    The coercion stems from the currency. The need/desire to have it. In a monetarily based system that pushes individuals to seek personal gain, coercion to those ends is inherent.

    • Jonny

      I believe it stems from child abuse. When children are abused, either physically or emotionally, they grow up with a bigger Amygdala and a greater surge of flight and fight. When they are raised in loving families they grow up with more rational brains. Im poor but I don’t have a desire to beat some over their head for their money. Money is just a medium of exchange that individuals voluntarily agree on using. I agree that the current monetary system is evil because it is forced on us and the government can inflate (counterfeit) currency at will. That’s what my comment is about, that Peter Joseph blames money but not the coercion by government.

    • AntPat

      Absolutely incorrect. One can receive a wage or profit for their labor, and then decide which resources to purchase with their rewarded income (or to save or invest it), without a drop of coercion involved (which is the essence of a free-market).

      Unfortunately, we don’t have a free-market. We have state-coercion. We have central-economic planning at the FED (which is the antithesis of capitalism and a free-market) that devalues our currency value and standard of living to benefit the military industrial complex and crony banks and companies. We have individuals telling us which products we can purchase and consume, and from whom we can and cannot obtain them from; if you disobey, you get smacked with fines and/or incarceration.

      In a free society, I wouldn’t be issued an equal share of resources; rather, I’d purchase which resources I wish to obtain. And I’d get them regardless of what they are and where they came from.
      The goal should be equal rights, not equal wealth.

    • AntPat

      Also, without the ability for individuals to gain, we wouldn’t have innovation. Color television, surround sound speakers, airplanes and vehicles, the list can go on…. people attempt to develop great inventions with hopes to be rewarded for their contribution to the society and markets. Think people would spend their free time busting their butt trying to create something for the world without any incentive? Dream on.

      Attempts at personal gain are not a requirement, but it’s nice to have the option if one wishes to do so. Personal gain is not a bad thing; fraud and plunder (on behalf of those we pay to prevent such things) are the evils that must be gotten rid of

      • ResearcherGuy

        I just love your list. Every single item on your list was invented by people that DID do it for the thrill of accomplishment, not for money. Add to that, radio, telegraph, telephone, bicycles, the tractor, ALTERNATING CURRENT electricity, penicilin, wireless telegraph (1913 version), electric motors and generators, diesel engines, the spark plug, computers including the first PCs, Linux software and all the open-sourced (and better) versions of nearly everything. Should I go on? “Dream on?” Really. You need to go back to school and learn history from someone other than internet chat rooms.

        You did say one part that’s correct. The “development” of them into business models was done for profit. However, let me ask you how you would plan to offer any product to the world (in a money based society) for free when it costs to design, test, refine, make and ship them?

  • serena

    What an amazing movie. I wish everyone in the world watch this movie. This man know exactly what he is talking about. We could live in Utopita if people removed the mentality of I want ‘more more more more more’. I realised long ago the reason I buy crap is for that instant gratification. But then when my home littered with everything (expensive clutter) it makes me angry. Hence I dont buy crap anymore and grow my own veggies. When you realise that you dont really need all the material stuff and start to be a bit self sufficient everyone wins. Plus when you realise you pay $4 for a lettuce from coles and you hear the farmer only made .45c from it you start to grow your own to spite the big supermarket chains.

  • Chris

    Here’s what i think, and its the straight up ruthless truth. I don’t care much what you think about the status quo, i don’t care if you think Joseph is wrong to target money, You clearly missed what he was saying. The system is the problem, and money is holding us back. And those of you who claim this guy is Propaganda for some cult, here is what i have to say…
    Sure they say your humanity would be given up id still wouldn’t give a shit if they fed me pillz to keep me under control id live in a system like that over this without question.

    Id get a chip in my head if i had to, and im strongly against this sort of stuff, under the current system.

    id take being taken care of then being in a world where people are so stuck up they wont even drop the poor change because its immoral. fuck morals, morals are for the weak and cowardly, DO IT F@GG0t. I don’t care about your feelings towards * not owning anything *

    you can worry about feelings well your sulking in your bed wishing money was real masturbating with your tears.
    And that’s what im saying to you, in a nutshell.

    • Stan

      Are you for real? I mean, is this comment a sarcastic joke? Do you have a history of mental illness in your family?

  • Gambo

    Just watched the 3rd zeitgeist movie having been a big fan of the first two, and was well impressed with the way it was put together. I actually felt a little emotional at the end which really isnt like me, it really was quite brilliant. The only critism i would give would be the lack of visual display of what everyday life could be like in the new system. However, a fantastic and clear explanation of how the transition is really needed and possible!!! Well done everybody!!!!!

  • al dimskis

    a must see in schools everywhere!!!the IDEA has been planted and now sorry to say–ITS JUST A MATTER OF TIME!

  • Kellbell

    words cannot express how much this hits my soul. we are on this earth at this very point in time because this is going to happen to us. this is going to be our experience, and only we can change it. come on everyone, wake up! I wish us all well for our journey of change, and hope that we can make this the new reality or something like this. hopefully without violence, without greed, poverty. all of us in it together and no more lies………. big love to all <3

  • Ubiquitous

    This documentary was really boring, and was too much like Zeitgeist: Addendum. I give Peter Joseph and the people in this movement credit for taking some type of action on making changes in this world, but this documentary didn’t really make the grade in my opinion.

    • Steve

      shhh. . . better not say anything commrade. Once Chairman Peter Joseph get’s his glorious cyber communist dictatorship, he might throw you in a gulag or have you executed like he says he’d do in interviews.

      (seriously folks. Do a youtube search for “peter joseph re education camp”. He openly talks about how if he were running the show he would be putting people into concentration camps and executing them if they didn’t agree with him. . . look it up)

  • Ubiquitous

    @ Chris: Morals are for the weak and cowardly? So, let’s imagine living in a world without morals: It would be complete anarchy. People would be killing, stealing, lying, and doing anything that they want in order to get whatever they want.

    Morals are inherent within us all. That’s why we have guilt. When we do something that we know is wrong we feel guilty because we know that it’s wrong internally. When someone steals from you you want justice. That’s just the way it is. A little child knows that stealing is wrong. You don’t even have to teach it to them.

  • Jaak Wassmuth

    I was delighted to learn more things about why we are in the state we are in, like a circular firing squad, no?

    I was disappointed that there were no suggestions that were actionable. Throwing the little money I have away is fine with me, but in a sense, this idea sounds like a Mexican Standoff; “you drop your gun and I’ll drop mine.” If anything was to be done to change this downward spiral peacefully, I should think it would have to be top down. The violent option is simply too horrid to imagine and it smells like more of the same.

    I am saving seeds. I am building a river powered energy source to water my seeds. It’s a place to start.

    Thank you for this film Mr. Joseph. I will distribute it high and low. Ya can’t eat gold.

    jaak wassmuth

    • Stan

      You’d be better off reading some Murray Rothbard. There are some actionable suggestions that would actually work, and are freedom oriented. Peter Joseph isn’t selling me anything I’m looking for, no matter how bad the problem is.

  • shusterman

    is there a list of all the individuals featured in the film? if so, could you help me by posting it? thank you very much..this has been another momentous moment for us…these zeitgeist documentaries seem to be capturing highly evolved indefatigable angels working in our realm..once again, i have been positively transformed…if you have any information regarding the persons interviewed in this project, I would be forever indebted to those who share this information with me. again, Thank you!

  • Ben

    Everyone should check this out!! much love to everyone.

  • eyes wide open

    Imho, Peter Joseph is a strategic front for a group of narcissist psychopaths creating a “global green” movement with “answers” to problems that other elite narcissist psychopaths have been creating since the beginning of civilization. Research Agenda 21.

    If he was getting a movement together to get millions to boycott the IRS, I would pay attention.

    A global resource based economy = NWO.

    • Stan

      I wonder if David Rockefeller helped with any of the editing sessions . . .

  • Percy

    I was really impressed with the basic foundation of the film, which is all true, but then they slide like scum bags right into globalization and a socialist system which is a “planned economy” which Russia and the soviet block proved does not work at all. And if its controlled by the same cretins running the globe right now, it would be even worse.

    My spouse grew up in such a system and explained to me what it was like and that is why he and his mother left and came to the west. He said it was wonderful to go in and be able to buy toilet paper when they needed it. You cant’ do that in a planned socialist economy. Lines were the order of the day. certain days a week were for certain products based on the planned economy.

    These terms they are using on here are exactly like that used in soviet Russia and poland and hungary where it simply did not work. He never mentions owning land, home, etc…. I wonder who paid for this production????

  • Percy

    Scientists who manipulated data for global warming in order to justify the carbon tax that would have cost each family over 4,000 per year, proved that scientists are just as corrupt as politicians and bankers.

    I think we should all go back to living like the tribes in the amazon. That is natural and real. Forget all this MINUTE CONTROL AND OVERSIGHT. These scientists all sound like Globalists and socialists. I have my degree in finance with a minor in macroeconomics and they are spewing BS on most of this stuff. The clean water is now controlled by the corporations and the soil is poisoned by the chemtrails these cretins have dumped on us. So please give me a break.

    I am sorely disappointed in zeitgeist after the first two videos they did…… this is far and away contrary to everything they have talked about in the previous two videos. What a shame.

    • Stan

      Bait. And. Switch.

      We’ve seen this game before.

      The Nazis.
      The Communists.
      The Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
      The French Revolution.
      and on. . . and on. . .

      Admit the crime, but blame it on your enemy.

      So the Nazis and the Protocols admitted what they were up to but blamed the Jews. . . the French Rev. admitted the atrocities of their ruling class but blamed it on the private sector rich. . . the Communists admitted their dirty deeds but then blamed it on the Capitalists.

      And then. . . a couple of planes were flown into some buildings and. . . oh yes, I think we see a pattern here

  • wonderer

    why they the heavy use of ‘binaural beats’ and other ‘neural sounds’ (look them up). i still hear bell in my ears 1 hour after i watched this shit. dont get me wrong i agree with a lot of what they present, but now i’ll tell people not watch it.

    • Stan

      I noticed that as well. I could give you a pretty good guess. They want to use binural beats to make the audience more suggestible. Big money goes into these Zeitgeist movies. . . big money behind the scenes. They know what they’re doing. The Binural beat is probably one associated with the brain being in a more relaxed, suggestible state. I wonder what globalist scientist put that in there. . .

  • Stan

    I can’t take Zeitgeist anymore. Of course the monetary system is wrong, and of course many other grievences are well founded. . . but he makes a movie attacking private property rights, free markets, and liberty? This smells like The Communist Manifesto: The Movie. Peter Joseph in interviews has said that in his ideal society, he’d put anyone who didn’t agree with him in concentration camps, and that his ideal society would be centrally planned and authoritarian-disallowing people the freedom to choose their own life direction. Look it up and you’ll hear it for yourself.

    Quite frankly, I’ve been coming to this site for a little while and I’m a bit disapointed that this “documentary”/Communist Propaganda film was posted. The first Zeitgeist was fairly relevant but you might as well be posting copies of Triumph of the Will. Thus documentary is pure collectivist filth that the guys who OWN our monetary system are trying to ram down your throats.

    The globalists are NOT free market. They are NOT capitalists. They want you to throw out all the free markets for them. . . so that they can fill the void and FULLY dominate to the likes that none of us have seen so far.

    This is even worse than “Addendum”. Peter Joseph should move to North Korea to see how glorious his beloved system actually is.

  • haaaaya

    I have to agreed with the main idea. Im a carpenter, my job is to build commercial furniture. We could use all kind of real wood, which would last 50-100 years if taken care of, but it wouldn’t be economically sustainable because the shop would close. but instead we use melanin, which is crap that passes for wood. The furniture will be used up in less then 7 years. I understand all that, i live it everyday. But what i fear about the zeitgeist mouvement is that herd mentality or group think, which is a big problem. Religion, politics, nationalism and the monatery system all have their blind defender, and im against that ideal. Yes i want a new system,a new way of doing stuff but i dont want a bunch of people to tell me what im ALLOWED to do. I want the freedom of choice. And the zeitgeist mouvement is not for that. Would i be allowed to smoke in my house in that new system or would i be ostracized by the bunch of blind defenders. Yes i know i could get cancer but that is MY problem,MY choice and my alone, not yours or anybody else. Will i still be allowed to hunt my food or will i be obliged to become a vegan? I dont see alot of choice in that ressource based economy. I see blind faith, which come back to a another form of dictatorship but with no dictator, just a bunch of blind follower that will ostracized every choice i make for myself. I live with the idea that resume to this ” dont do to other what you wouldnt want the other do to you”. I dont follow, and i dont lead, i do my stuff, and i make sure it doesnt affect someone else liberty.

    By the way, dont reply that i shouldnt smoke cause well i dont.quit 5 years ago, but i would not obliged someone else to follow my choice, the only thing that i obliged other to do is to not follow my choice. Make your own choice based on your decision not mine.

    That’s what i think and if you have nothing constructive to reply well dont. Cause i dont give a shit. If you have something constructive to say well be my guess. By discussing about the flaws we find solution.

  • anja

    they are giving us the material to talk about, think about, they are saying SOMETHING instead of…. not saying anything?
    people, it isn’t a question of detail, it simply is not.
    These are the questions of happiness, living and information.. these are wake up calls, never mind the exact words…don’t you think so???? the point is: we can do something. so, do something. don’t just criticize……

    • Steve

      All they’re doing is throwing a bit of Hollywood on The Communist Manifesto. They might as well have just admitted what it was. . .a movie adaptation of Marx’ book.

      200+ million people were brutally murdered because of Karl Marx in the 20th century. I hardly think it’s an idea worth “saying”.

      • Steve

        Coming to theaters this Summer.. . . Zeitgest – The Mein Kampf Edition (with a musical duet by Bono and Henry Kissenger)

  • Human

    Thank you. Thank you for taking the time out of your daily schedule to consider the ideas in this film. So long as we a capable to refute or agree with these claims and allegations can we collectively take a step towards change. i commend each and every one of you for being inspired by this motivational piece of work. Investing your energy for or against will manifest inevitable change, which spell both chaos and peace. Plant a seed with love or hate and it will grow regardless. Plant an acre of seeds with love or hate and it will grow regardless. All that encompasses the ‘nature’ of things is good at self-preservation. Your need to worry about such universalities has nothing to do with it. Your need to believe in something like this or that is futile and will ultimately lead to undoing everything you are for. Everything you are for empowers you. Everything you are against weakens you. You are a self-aware entity that has the capacity to transcend all that you are! You are capable of so much more! Why not start after taking your next breath and even more so for each sequential breath that you take for granted? You’ve got to be stupefied every time you consider the complexity of you inborn capacity to breathe. You don’t have enough time to worry about being upset at the people and things that have propagated this illusory experience you might call YOUR life. Nor do you have enough time to neatly change the universe to favor your self-created belief system. Remember that these are YOUR perceptions that YOU are responsible for because YOU choose to believe in the things YOUVE seen and heard. i may convince myself through logical analysis that the sky is blue, but the necessity for using a word like that to describe it to you denies everything that it could potentially be in your eyes. Rather than feeding a starving man, teach him how to fish so that he can feed himself for a lifetime and therefore teach everyone who makes the time to see him do likewise. When it comes down to it we all just want to be happy. The road to happiness can be reached when you recognize your self-worth. You are worthy of everything you can feed yourself be it negative or positive; it’s all you choice. And for the same reason You can never arrive at happiness while looking outside, for happiness can only come for within yourself. It’s wonderful how one nine thousand six hundred seconds can raise such spirited rhetoric. This enumerates to all how passionate we can become when we invest our belief in matters that can potentially offer some kind of compensation or fulfillment of expectation. Is it feasible to think that your attachments to expectation can also destroy all the good that you may desire to represent? Do what feels right for the sake of doing it, not for a belief in the necessity to massage the ego or the like. You don’t have to compulsively question everything outside of you in order to validate it. You can grow out of this excuse for living when you understand that you are in control of everything you are for. Your need to describe it to others just tells them how special you think you are and has nothing to do with what you are telling them. You don’t need to instruct a newborn how to breath- life takes care of the ineffable matters. The very life that we desperately hold on to can be a belief as well, so try to treat it that way if it works for you, don’t get worked up over theory’s, ideology, dogma, religion and pragmatism because no matter what you always have the choice to choose peace instead. You can’t arrive at truth because you literally are a manifestation of truth and everything contrary to that is mere conception. All i know is that i know nothing. i expect everyone to live for themselves or others in order to be happy for themselves which encompasses the process to fulfilling that contentment. Happiness is a perception; a very simple concept. All it takes is that you truly believe in yourself and your pristine right to exist. You disservice yourself when you fight for what Jacque Frescos believes in. i expect you to understand that all the unnamed hero’s in history died for this knowledge to reach your eyes and ears. These people will never ask you to take the torch for their sake. They want you to live life for everything you encompass out of a genuine interest so that the integrity of all can be sustained and improved. This is the greatest achievement you can possibly award yourself with. Jacques war in essence is not with others. It’s the battle over self. The same war has been waged since time immemorial. He is telling you to be in control of your universe and not that of another. If it rains on your parade, well believe that you are in control of that as well. Don’t be immobilized by your excuses and perceptions. Countless people and experiences preach these things to you every day. Why bother yourself with being upset at Jacque and company? The universe is perfect; even you desire to improve it! Don’t wait for the whole world to catch up to you, for it will consume you. Don’t even expect the world to catch up to you, for it never will. Be your universe. Now! How can you wage a war for peace when peace has been inside you all along? i am of the human race and i Live on the planet earth! Don’t settle for anything less than you can be. Make your life a masterpiece!
    I have always been regretting that i was not as wise as the day i was born. – Henry David Thoreau
    Every generation laughs at the old fashioned, but follows religiously the new. – Henry David Thoreau
    Loving Kindness to all that is

  • MJ

    Club of Rome states:

    1. A world consciousness must be developed through which every individual realizes his role as a member of the world community.

    2. A new ethic in the use of material resources must be developed which will result in a style of life compatible with the coming age of scarcity.

    3. An attitude toward nature must be developed based on harmony rather than conquest–only in this way can man apply in practice what is already accepted in theory…this is, that man is an integral part of nature.

    4. If the human species is to survive, man must develop a sense of the identification with future generations and be ready to trade benefits to the next generations for the benefits to himself. If each generation aims at the maximum good for itself, homo sapiens are as good as doomed.

    See any likeness with The Zeitgeist movement?

    Please note; First build the Man and then the city!

  • Sa

    Watched it few hours ago. followed all three parts of it. had a good bunch of great thought provoking stuffs, blended along with some severely argumentative illusions that i might not adopt. a ton of questions floating in my mind trying to reveal feasible answers coping with their arguments, remained inconclusive still. i remember i emailed a bunch of relevant and serious questions regarding earlier parts, impounded with no logical answers till date. i hate current imperialistic monetary-market system as they do; still some part of me telling me to like the idea and the other logically arguing not to. just few of my large chunk of new questions might be(some might say i am tripping…lol!):
    1. the current imperialistic monetary-market system owners have history of demolishing every entity that might stand in their way. if some of you are threat enough to them, why they have not taken any strong action on or eliminated zeitgeist, julian assange, or alex jones or few more yet?!?? with due respect, sorry to say that you guys haven’t showed much about that the world doesn’t already know. are you just alternative strategic deployed players of their potential single New World Order system?!? are they strategically implanting relevant key players in both sides to ensure a win?!
    2. how different are, ‘a world with many countries’ and ‘a world with many cities’?! mirror reflection it seems.
    3. ‘global resource management system’…who would be in control of that management system and what would be the hierarchy?! we all know, all decisional opinions can not be singular, so someone has to decide; who would that be?! we also know, money has no intrinsic value of itself; don’t you think the singular power and control on ‘global resource management system’ would have some significant intrinsic value?! how to decide who to lead when?! the ‘democracy’ again…:)?! wouldn’t that be another scam of politics?!
    4. who gets to eat caviar or only potatoes…hang luxury art piece or mere calendar on wall…watch entertaining movies on 100inch plasma tv or just boring news on 20inch crt tv…sail to world tour or only can view sunset from rooftop…who decides about the quality and quantity of final products each consume?! inequality doesn’t depend on only as monetary disparity, but also on consumption opportunities.
    5. what if there is large permanent migrations between these modern so called ‘cities’ resulting in overcrowding and underpopulation among cities!? how to decide who lives where!?
    6. i could not find or rely on a number of statistical facts it’s given. it talked about if a hypothetical similar new earth found…which is not available realistically; rather in this current world, enough damage is already done to create a significant natural imbalance in various regions. how to regain dynamic equilibrium in this already unbalanced natural world as ‘Nature is a dictatorship’ itself!?

    there could be many more to clarify…but no offence…i have been a major encouraging initiator for any positive change as always among my peers and students. however, i believe the saying, “hope for the best, but plan for the worst.” :) :)

  • WTF?

    This guy’s a dreamer. Waste of film. Stick with the first Zeitgeist.

  • Daniel

    This is a good documentary and is very interesting but there was a man who died in 1994 at the age of 32 who pretty much said all this and simply spoke the truth. His name was Bill Hicks. Look him up.

  • Horus

    The people that claim this is Communism and Socialism have absolutely no idea what they are talking about. First off –
    Communism/Socialism still has money, banks, government, social stratification, doesn’t address planetary resources etc. So to compare that with and RBE is completely erroneous.
    The first thing an RBE calls for is the removal of government and the entire monetary system. An RBE transcends any kind of ‘ism’ box you try to put it in. Nothing like this has been tried before on a global scale. The situation in russia with a planned economy failed miserably because there was still a corrupt government controlling the planned economy not giving it a proper chance.

  • Horus

    The people that claim this is Communism and Socialism have absolutely no idea what they are talking about. First off –
    Communism/Socialism still has money, banks, government, social stratification, doesn’t address planetary resources etc. So to compare that with and RBE is completely erroneous.
    The first thing an RBE calls for is the removal of government and the entire monetary system. An RBE transcends any kind of ‘ism’ box you try to put it in. Nothing like this has been tried before on a global scale. The situation in russia with a planned economy failed miserably because there was still a corrupt government controlling the planned economy not giving it a proper chance.

  • Wendy Penn

    Lost me the moment anything was being based on finding a brand new Earth somewhere’s else, and then the ending… SEriousLy?  Obviously there will be a lot of violence reported, most especially from cops (already armed) when “the revolution” comes as a result of mass discontent.  No suit is gonna “make the call” and tell the cops they don’t actually have to restrain/harm dissenters because money is meaningless now.  Furthermore, no mass protesting across the world… simply gathering in the streets, is going to be the single magic formula that makes the institutions fall.

  • Wendy Penn

    Lost me the moment anything was being based on finding a brand new Earth somewhere’s else, and then the ending… SEriousLy?  Obviously there will be a lot of violence reported, most especially from cops (already armed) when “the revolution” comes as a result of mass discontent.  No suit is gonna “make the call” and tell the cops they don’t actually have to restrain/harm dissenters because money is meaningless now.  Furthermore, no mass protesting across the world… simply gathering in the streets, is going to be the single magic formula that makes the institutions fall.

  • gr0gg0

    Why do people don’t get it? After this movie they still believe in free will… Without any proof of its existence. Free will means “without a reason”. There’s nothing in the world that happens without a reason. Cause and effect, baby! And if free will do not exist, what’s the right to judge someone by it (law, punishment, limitations, money etc.)?
    Those who think they have free will are easily manipulated.

    • Nobody

      Free will abides when thought dose not interfere with “what is”. Thought is the past, which is all our conditioning, beliefs, attitudes, hopes, desires, fears, etc, etc.
      Thought is who you are, the past. Therefore the idea of self is an illusion. when one sees the illusion, it is shattered and what is comes into being. That is what cannot be expressed in words except to say it is beyond time and space, infinite and any ACTION carried in presence is free i.e. not  from our conditioning.
       

  • gr0gg0

    Why do people don’t get it? After this movie they still believe in free will… Without any proof of its existence. Free will means “without a reason”. There’s nothing in the world that happens without a reason. Cause and effect, baby! And if free will do not exist, what’s the right to judge someone by it (law, punishment, limitations, money etc.)?
    Those who think they have free will are easily manipulated.

    • Nobody

      Free will abides when thought dose not interfere with “what is”. Thought is the past, which is all our conditioning, beliefs, attitudes, hopes, desires, fears, etc, etc.
      Thought is who you are, the past. Therefore the idea of self is an illusion. when one sees the illusion, it is shattered and what is comes into being. That is what cannot be expressed in words except to say it is beyond time and space, infinite and any ACTION carried in presence is free i.e. not  from our conditioning.
       

  • http://www.firstpropertycroatia.com/ Property Croatia

    This film is above current political and economic systems and religions… it is an evolution in thinking.

  • http://www.firstpropertycroatia.com/ Property Croatia

    This film is above current political and economic systems and religions… it is an evolution in thinking.

  • Nobody

    FREE WILL abides when thought dose not interfere with “what is”. Thought is the past, which is all our conditioning, beliefs, attitudes, hopes, desires, fears, etc, etc.
    Thought is who you are, the past. Therefore the idea of self is an illusion. when one sees the illusion, it is shattered and “what is” comes into being. That is, what cannot be expressed in words,as it is beyond time , infinite and any ACTION carried in this presence is free from conditioning.
    It is spontaenous ACTION.
    So the seening and action are one movement free of interference from thought.
    Not the ACTING from an idea, belief, plan, concept.
     
    That is thought gets in the way of  “what is”.
     

  • Nobody

    FREE WILL abides when thought dose not interfere with “what is”. Thought is the past, which is all our conditioning, beliefs, attitudes, hopes, desires, fears, etc, etc.
    Thought is who you are, the past. Therefore the idea of self is an illusion. when one sees the illusion, it is shattered and “what is” comes into being. That is, what cannot be expressed in words,as it is beyond time , infinite and any ACTION carried in this presence is free from conditioning.
    It is spontaenous ACTION.
    So the seening and action are one movement free of interference from thought.
    Not the ACTING from an idea, belief, plan, concept.
     
    That is thought gets in the way of  “what is”.
     

  • bizwizle

    First I want to say that the best thing about films like this isn’t necessarily the ideas themselves that are brought forward but the fact that it gets people who see them to start thinking about a different way of doing things and to start talking about it and I think that is actually the point.  If people don’t think and talk about change than it is doomed not to happen.

    Anyway the review.

    Great film that addressed a lot of the unanswered questions from the first two films but still leaves a lot to be answered.  The one thing about this and the other Zeitgeist films is that unlike many other “subversive” films it actually presents rather logical and probably achievable solutions to the problems it talks about.  There are definitely some problems with the plan such as they do not address what we will do with the existing cities in order to incorporate the model they have for the round city design which is actually an idea that’s been around a long long time in the design world as a concept.  We can’t obviously just abandon our cities and go live in brand new circle cities but retrofit may be somewhat of a solution.  Of course developing countries such as China provide an excellent opportunity to give this model for building cities like this but that will take a willingness of investors which in our current system will be hard to find.  The ending was a bit optimistic and unrealistic but it’s purpose was to make you feel like a change on a massive scale is possible and that the long term outcome will be good for the human species as a whole.  I am really starting to believe that the death of our current system is fast approaching but I am less optimistic about the transitional phase being peaceful, uniform across the world and simultaneous as the film suggests it could be

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SAQZYDZ3GKC6GL272GDNNTJYXY BlogShag

    What was with the space cadet ideology of finding a new planet, and that  cartoon sequence?

  • Paul

    hmm i want to adress some of the problems with this film i like the bits at the start with human behavior and poverty and essential needs and the section about the human races insatiable materialistic wants and rampant waste and our complete addiction to oil with no intention to find some other energy source insted of saving some oil for future generations. oil isnt bad and its an amazing tool for creating plastics paints ect.. but people dont give a fuck anymore (if they ever did i can only speak for the 20 years ive been around) thats why we have land fills cities and oceans full of trash mostly plastic and i cant even talk too much i throw out my fair share of plastic but i recycle as much as i can. getting on to the monetary system i cant see money just being replaced by a resource based economy. money also isn’t a bad thing not at all when u let irresponsable people/organizations run the monetary system well you get the shitty fucked up world we live in today also he says 75% of jobs can be automated okay what about the other 25% are we to expect 1 and a half billion people to work for nothing? doubtful so you need some incentive as well as a common form of bartering which money works very well for its not that the only way to manage our planets resources is without money but the way we use our monetary system is an epic failure where you do have 1% of the population own so much material wealth. there needs to be a more even wealth distribution and a wealth cap per person i think anyway. no one needs five houses and luxury sports cars and the whole bit especially when 50% of people live off 2$ A DAY and u have thousands starving to death for almost no reason at all. you can still have monetary competitivness without depriving your fellow man of basic needs such as food and water, another thing that he didnt talk about much was war he didn’t tell you that if war was eliminated out right poverty could be solved for if only a small percentage of the money spent on military industrialization was put towards food production and water treatment not one person would go to bed hungry and dehydrated and whatever was leftover could be spent on global universal healthcare. society as a whole is sick in the head. 3 years ago i detested the fact that i actually had to go out and become a part of this fucked up world there was a good 6 month period when i lived in deep depression for that very fact im still not all that thrilled about my situation in life but im hopeful for the future i might not see the day where the world grows up enough to achieve these changes but i hope my kids do and if not my grandkids if we make it that far we might kill ourselves off by then i see a world war 3 coming its not improbable when things go to shit historically it leads to war and history has this funny thing of repeating itself especially when people dont learn from it which i think were doomed for that part. i cant speak for the whole world but the kids i went to school with were all fucking retarded i was pretty much the only kid who raised his hand to answer questions in like every subject not math tho haha and its not even like im a geek or super intelligent it’s just kids today are so brainwashed and apathetic towards anything that actually matters i dont know this is life your given your cards and you gotta play them the best you can (gets off his soap box) goodnight or morning whenever your reading this im going to bed now :)

    • Sage

      Your soapbox becomes you.

  • Anonymous

    Well put, ResearcherGuy!

    AntPat, you are a real stumbling block for positive change. I do feel sorry for all the people like you who are victims of propaganda, lies, hoaxes, corruption, misinformation etc. and do not know what to grab hold of so you spew criticism every way you can. I know you feel extremely helpless and hopeless and beat. Forget about the guy who put it all together and what his intentions might be. All you need to do is try to change for the better by using all positive information you can acquire from all of these sources. PEACE